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2008-06-14 Talk

Just found Jumpcut, there have been some open movie activities http://www.jumpcut.com/view/?id=FDBD2100739111DBBF7E3EF340157CF2

2008-05-15 Talk

True, feedback is welcome.

2008-05-14 Talk

ChristopheDucamp? : VideoWikiComments? could now be dropped on MattisStartupOnSeesmic ; feel free to join us and give any feedback. Thanks

2008-05-11 Talk

Mattis, impressed by the SeesmicWiki?. Could you join us on our next BarCamp:VideoCampParis?2 to explain the future of DiscussionMode? in the WikiNet ? – ChristopheDucamp?

I certainly will join VideoCampParis?2, remotely though. Thanks for the invitation xtof. You’re right about that the new mode gives us quite a chance to discuss in a new way and that there’s something to develop, probably even a culture, which is worth the effort of making a wiki or two. ;)
The chain-video-wiki is good for experimenting and trying out, the basic idea behind it though is different from that of a discussion. Video-discussion is about what people say in a video and about encircling a topic of common interest. Chain-video is about what a video as a chain segment says and about commonly telling a story by combing and recombining segments. Take a look at http://kettenvideo.de where the idea for the chain-video-wiki is directly stolen from. I like this idea.
We should start a new wiki for video-dicussion. I’d not like to call it Seesmic-wiki, legal reasons. It is a mistake to reduce it to a brand name when something bigger is meant, BigBucketsFirst?. I made that mistake before with the sl-camp-wiki which rather should be the virtual-reality-camp-wiki.
Isn’t video-discussion-wiki quite a nice name? A Fench discussion-vidéo-wiki and a German Video-Diskussions-wiki started simultaneously? We could easily build these, it wouldn’t take more than a few days to get them ready for service.
The name leaves uncertain if it’s about discussing whatever by using video (which it is) or if it’s about dicussing videos (which it is not or not only). More ideas?

Another important point is the hive the new wiki sits in, its “physical neigborhood” so to say. Chain-video is collective art and sits in the eArt-wiki-hive. Video-discussion better suits the obm- or the kabo-wiki-hive.

2008-04-16 Talk

Chain-videos via “in” and “out” tags - imaginable? Viddler has tags. I made an account http://www.viddler.com/explore/MattisManzel.


2007-07-24 Talk

So, what is this? Maybe a good idea? Let’s see.

Rules. Rules are recommendations that you are always free not to follow. In certain cases not following a rule may have more or less severe consequences. Let’s better call them [RecommendationsForParticipation? recommendations for participation] right away as they aren’t but mere recommendations.

Chain-video means a sequence of short videos. The Kettenvideo.de-folks who made it up limit the length of each chain-segment to 2 minutes. No need to care for as people will do it right intuitively, I think. The Kettenvideo-folks say a following segment has to relate in some way to the segment it follows to. True. In some way. They were telling a story together - which is actually difficult, telling one on your own is already difficult. When making a chain of videos more the impressionist way, pictures, moods, dots a hard break can be interesting, just don’t worry. Put what you think is good, when nobody continues your segment but all continue the fork someone started, maybe your idea wasn’t that good finally. Yes, fork whenever btw.

 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5
 1.1 - 1.1.1
 1.2 - 1.2.1 - 1.2.2 - 1.2.3

We need a small picture for every segment so we can display them all in a chart. Ideally you’d define start and finish of the sequence you want to watch and click “download”. Like: start: 1 finish: 1.2.3. Then you go make a cup of tea. Meanwhile your box downloads all six segments. When back with your tea you click play and watch them all six seamlessly. This misses on http://kettenvideo.de/kvuntenB.php. I found it annoying to have to wait for every segment, I whished I could see the whole video without interruption. This is not very urgent but for chain-video to work it’s essential, I think. It also makes sense to think about how to handle it when it isn’t just half a dozen videos that make a 10 minute chain-video-movie anymore but some hundreds of videos as people decided to create a full-length movie together.

I wonder about a chart showing the most popular sequence of segments. Maybe a map even. A newcomer enters, sees the community currently likes segments 1 - best and can (pretty) immediately watch it.

Legal stuff: What is the way to make this work? As little hustle as possible. Are there legal conflicts when combining segments from different sources?


“And the old rusted camera starts crumbling in his hands:
I can’t get the picture!

A successful test. Hmm.

2007-07-21 Talk

Video embedding in Oddmuse, some links and experiments


http://www.oddmuse.org/cgi-bin/wiki/YouTube <- this would be very useful here!

Cool. So generally it works. Also in the SandBox. :) Yay!

Trying on one from the Kettenvideo.de-folks

http://kettenvideo.de/nummerzweizwei.php - test partly positive. Starts automatically, downloads til 99% and then stops, deactivated

 <html><iframe src=“http://kettenvideo.de/nummerzweizwei.php” frameborder=“0” width=“425” height=“350” autoplay=false></iframe> </html> 

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